Bent Out of Shape: Has Heavy Metal Become a Joke? Part 2 — the Power of the Blues

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urth1000

Will Wallner is right, if you disagree maybe you're offended because you recognize yourself in the articles or you're a poser.Maybe you have no musical imagination and you take your inability too seriously.Maybe all you have is inability ,no technique,no real songwriting ability etc. Will Wallner is touring, he knows what he sees.I saw the same thing years ago working in some big nightclubs.Everyone should at least stop taking the other guys riffs and leads, and sometimes songs.Write your own stuff,get an imagination.

silver

Guitar World to Randy Rhoads - Do you like to play melodically or go for a more technical, dazzle type thing?

Randy - "I like to play melodically"

silver

Guitar World to Randy Rhoads - Do you like to play melodically or go for a more technical, dazzle type thing?

Randy - "I like to play melodically"

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nihilist74

If you sit there and think about a whole genre of music and dismiss it, its kind of foolish. I like everything from Simon and Garfunkel to napalm death. I love old 80s punk and old 80s metal. I like classical symphonic music and movie scores. The trick is to take the best of every genre. If you sit there and say metal has lost its way because your judging the mass amount of metal bands out there, then your not really thinking it through.
There has been a million different blues inspired metal bands out there and most of them are not that great. Every once in a while you get a led Zeppelin or black sabbath or deep purple but there was also a million other bands of there time that you probably don't really care about.
In the 90s there was a million different grunge bands that your probably don't care about.
During Simon and Garfunkel's time, there was a million different folk rock bands.
There is a million different bands that copied napalm death, but napalm death is the best at what they do.
Stevie wonder and Eddie Van Halen are the best at what they do too because they make the best songs with great music arrangements.
The circle jerks made one of the best punk rock albums ever - group sex.
Miles Davis made and incredible sounding album - bitches brew.
Pink Floyd Dark side of the moon.
Beastie boys - pauls boutique.
Public enemy - fear of a black planet.
King Diamond Abigail.
Voivod Killing Technology.
Bella Bartok - The Manderin
Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and infinite sadness.
These people made great albums not because they were thinking how there genre of music needs to be more blues influenced. They made great albums because they were trying to make great albums.
Horribly stupid article.
Who are you to tell people what they should have incorporated in there music. Your music sounds like one the countless 80s shallow hair metal bands. Based on your music, your the one who needs to expand your horizons.
Who's going to remember your two bit crappy hard rock?!

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guardiandevil

Forewarning: I am a scatter-brain

I agree with pretty much everything in this article and the preceding one. However, I have a huge beef with ALL guitarists really. I LOVE Gary Moore but, since he's the one in the video, he gets to be my fodder.

Anyway, Whenever a guitarist plays something that's supposed to be emotional or cathartic, they make these faces. Just watch the video to see what I mean. The music is great but, people making these faces seriously KILLS me! I just don't get it because if the lick is emotional, if the emotion is there, I don't see how the face enhances that. If the audience is so ignorant that you need to make these faces (Petrucci, Vai, and many others are guilty of this as well..)

I get that you will close your eyes tightly, maybe grit your teeth or open your mouth even but like... these faces seem so forced to me. It's like, the guitarist wrote this really emotional line that they have a lot of passion for. Then when they hit that bend, or that note, or that sequence, they make this face xO(more or less) and it's super frustrating to me.

It seems so artificial to me because when I get super into the music, my head goes down, internal focus goes up... the world outside is pretty much gone and I have no thoughts about making faces, if i do, they are subconscious and they definitely never involved throwing my head up and going xO(mostly to reuse the face here), even in live situations. If the passion is there, it should be coming out through the guitar, not through your face.

Back on topic, I do agree with this definition of blues and I agree that a LOT of metal today is just dry, plain, or stale. I don't know if it's because we've lost our roots though. For my money, you can't play any sort of technical genre unless you can do a twelve bar blues and improv over it effectively, spend some time with legitimate etudes (IE Matteo Carcassi's etudes in Berklees "Classical Studies for Pick-Style Guitar" or Paganini, even some of Vivaldi's quartet or solo violin works) and just have a real and intimate knowledge of the fretboard, music/theory, and everything else that goes into making music that stands out as GREAT!

So, to me, it's not the lack of foundation, it's the lack of care and concern, the patience that goes into learning how to manipulate one of the most versatile instruments ever made. The current problem with metal is a lack of MUSICAL ability. Cacophony did amazing technical things that make your heart pump. You can create emotion without slowing down. But you can't create emotion without taking the time to learn what emotion sounds like. Learning a lick is not the same as playing a lick is not the same as owning a lick.

To summarize: 1. Stop making funny faces during serious parts of the music; 2. Grow some man balls and accept that you can't REALLY master your instrument(or any craft for that matter) without countless hours of dedication to both your individual sound AND the history of the instrument... This means learning music you don't necessarily want to learn, just to understand exactly what is going on mechanically, technically, musically, and theoretically; 3. Restriction breeds creativity... forcing yourself to do things the right way instead of the way you just want to do them will open your eyes to all sorts of guitarisms that you never noticed.

That's it for me!

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theriz

This guy is so right. It has nothing to do with "personal taste." It is an awareness of GREATNESS. So many people lack it.

If you have an emotional connection to today's screaming, guttural, shred-for-the-sake-of shredding music, you either were not born with it or you have terrible influences from the start.

David Gilmour can make you cry with 2 notes. This is real power, and real song-writing. Today's typical metal band is so damn boring and abysmal live, that anyone with a connection to it has an empty soul.

This is coming from someone who considers Megadeth, old Metallica, Iron Maiden, ZZ Top, to be some of the greatest bands ever. It's fine if you don't "like" these bands. But their greatness cannot be denied.

Do you think bands like Whitechapel will ever have the enormous, passionate crowd Iron Maiden draws? The answer is no, because they lack a connection to the human soul.

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jrussell49

I completely get what you are referring to I grew up on Led Zeppelin, Jeff Beck, Clapton etc, but I have to say being introduced to the New Heavy Metal and Rock bands through my kids, I think that many of them are very talented artists just doing a different thing. Sometimes even a little scream o is good just to let it all go, and you are damn talented yourself.

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frankenpaul

I may not fully agree but I respect his opinion. I think he makes some great points and thought his music rocked. Any blog that criticizes metal is gonna get tons of negative response. Wallner's a brave guy to put himself out there.

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BrotherAeo

You're really sounding like someone stuck in their own head.

It seems to me that your opinion flies in the face of what Metal stands for. Metal is perhaps the biggest most accepting genre of music today. There is such a vast array of styles you can find a band that matches anything you're looking for. Want your metal with a dose of Vedic chants for lyrics? Then go listen to Rudra. Maybe you prefer bone crushing wall of sound death metal? Nile will help you with that. Perhaps you long for the psychedelic metal sound of yesteryear? Maybe The Sword is your thing. We can do this all day!

The fact that you want metal to be one thing is so un-Metal I can't freaking believe it. More so than any other style of music Metal is about NOT conforming. Yet you dismiss everything that doesn't fit your narrow view. I guess Lamb of God sucks because they're not straight up bluesy enough for you?

You're coming across as one of the most close minded guitar players I've ever heard. Play and listen to what YOU like and let others like what they choose. Metal has been casting aside the blues since the 80's. Does Metallica's Master of Puppets really sound much like blues? Sure some solos are pentatonic based but the majority of the album is in E Minor and has an extremely different song structure from blues.

So then also I would guess that there's no emotion in death metal, black metal, operatic metal, or anything else that doesn't fit into your tiny box of what's cool? Also as a blues and metal guitar player I think Eric Clapton is god and so is Jeff Loomis. There is room enough in my musical tastes for everything.

Isn't it often said that if you want to be a better guitar player you should listen to all sorts of music? There are ONLY two types of music. Good music and bad music. Even then, good and bad are different for everyone. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad.

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frankenpaul

I think you missed the point of what he's trying to say in the blog. Anybody who criticizes metal is bound to get a ton of negative response. I agree with a lot of what he's saying. In my opinion Jeff Loomis is all technique and lacks depth. He sounds like a robot. No where near Clapton. That doesn't mean you can't like him but I don't. Just like WIll Wallner can like and write about whatever he wants and just because you disagree doesn't make him wrong.

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BrotherAeo

Actually, Wallner here is the one saying music is bad because he doesn't like it. I'm saying having that attitude is a problem. One should say this music is not for me and move on. To essentially say I don't like music without this certain influence so it's a joke is not very open minded.

Let's put this another way for fun. Classical guitar has been around for centuries. If you're not playing proper finger style classical guitar arrangements you're really just being a slacker and not honoring our musical heritage. Any other type of guitar playing loses the nuance and majesty of what the instrument is meant to be. Electric guitar is just noise that covers up the clarity of the notes. Only classical guitar playing shows true emotion and feeling.

Sounds pretty silly when you use the same exact argument but with a different style eh?

I'm almost thinking Wallner did this for hits more than anything else at this point because he continues an argument which really just comes down to personal opinion and nothing else. There is no 'fact' to prove one right or wrong. All Wallner is saying is "This music sucks" which is totally subjective and can never be proven to be true.

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thf24

Read the title of this article and part 1. How is the point anything other than "Any metal without Blues influence is a joke"?

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thf24

Very well said. Sorry Wallner. You kind of had a point when viewed from a certain, narrow perspective when not really thinking about it, but when considered in terms of the big picture, this concept is a real dud. Even if you say you're not, you're attempting to define good music in absolute terms, which is a non-existent argument.

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jjaramos

Amen Bro!

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redstrat8

thank god i got old lp's and don't have to listen to stuff out now.not into 7 and 8 string guitars .and screaming vocals.gonna go play some beatles for my 2 year old son he loves it

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Zamdrang

I tend to agree. But I think production values have as much to do with the lack of "feel" as a guitarists roots. I think the fine art of EQing to the human ear in an emotional way has been lost. Particularly on recordings, modern stuff is flat and lifeless, with the volume way too loud(Death Magnetic anyone). There are no dynamics in new stuff, and if what your ear is presented with is flat... that is how you will respond emotionally. Blues, hair metal, death metal, jazz, country..... whatever...its about emotion... that's why our ears tells us its good....emotion.

Maybe... as another poster said.. im just getting old (teenager in the 80s) but very very few modern metal/rock or blues recordings provoke emotion in me one way or the other. Even a good standby like Slash or ZZ Top...their latest discs are full of good songs...but produced/mixed/mastered terribly. Ironically one of the best new recordings i've heard personally is the new Steel Panther disc.

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diabolical

It's hard to produce an emotion when you line all performances to a grid, sample all the drums and keep the dynamics as squashed as possible.
Analog tape, the variety of amplifiers and I think also the isolation of bands from each other helped create the diversity. Think Sepultura - Brazil, Kreator - Germany, Slayer - USA and how diverse and unique these 3 bands playing the same style are. DIfferent studios, different amps, different guitars (all to a point), enough variety keeps it interesting. Nowadays, you go on a forum and they tell you to get a Peavey 6505 or Engl Powerball, Jackson V with EMGs and go from there...

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mklotz

I agree the art of recording is gone. Digital gear & Pro tools all make it easy to lay it down and ship it out. Kinda prefer LP's myself- feel they had a 3D sort of sound while CDs are flat. Death Magnetic could have been a great reording but your right -distorted. I too was a teenager in the 80's and although not a fan of most new stuff I have found a few worth listening to. Try Halestorm, Avengedsevenfold, Amaranthe. Not old school but melodic, and new.

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shadow1029

I'm glad you did a follow up. I think you really cleared up a lot of what bugged me about your last article and now I understand way better what you were saying.

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ocguitarplayer

I find the new metal these dayz a bit bland. Even with all the inovations in effects an recording there just seems to be something missing from the mix. I dont know if its the "Blues" or just that the fact that Im gettin older and my ear has changed. I love the blues,metal, hardrock and a host of other musical influances but to me the so called "hairbands" just had something todays bands are lacking. But just remember that opionins are like assholes---- we all have one. JUST KEEP ON ROCKIN ! ! !

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mklotz

Exactly.....

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mklotz

This arguement reminds me of being in the fifth grade wearing a concert T and someone asks you to name 5 songs from the group. I suppose no one has progressed.....go back to sleep.

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moguitar7

I think the bad thing that has happened over the years to metal is the grunting vocals on some of it. Some has no leads or leads than go nowhere, or too much monotony. There are sub-genres that are sickening, which are as bad as rap music or even worse. Some lyrics are just too distasteful.
Of course, everyone has their own tastes. Mine go more for Iron Maiden, or psychedelic stuff with great vocals, or psychedelic instrumentals. It can be blues influenced or classically influenced, but not jazz, rap, or too much country. I can take a country song and turn it metal, same with classic rock, blues, or even Christmas and other traditional stuff. That is my own preference. I like the video song of the author.
Please leave out the grunting garbage. Some of them would be great metal songs without it.

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shopson67

It's sad that this argument continues to recycle itself through every generation of players. Why do so many equate emotion with the blues? Did American slavery invent emotion in music? Classical music is just as rife with emotion as the blues. In turn, metal is just as informed by classical music as it is by the blues.

This idea that playing less notes is better because that means there is more feeling is simply false. The emotion will come through the player regardless of the number of notes.

I find it laughable that a guitarist in a band that is essentially a throw back to the hair metal days is telling us that metal is on the wrong path. Maybe the guy stuck in the 80's is the one refusing to move on possibly? Don't get me wrong, I grew up on the 80's hard rock and metal scene and love many of the bands involved. That in no way means that evolution of the genre thereafter is ill-conceived. Bringing metal back with White Wizzard is more than a little bit HOLDING metal back. Open your mind and your ears and widen your experience.

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jjaramos

I couldn't agree more with you mate, there is emotion in every musical genre. One of my favorite players, Christopher Amott, who is not precisely a blues guitarist and I love every single note he plays, it is as you say: it is in the hands of the player.

Also, can you imagine if every single player played "bluesy" solos? we would be all be complaining about the lack of fireworks and longing for some mindless shredding!

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robcanderson

My musical preferences have changed over the years as I've aged. If anything, I'm more interested in exposure to all types of music in 2012 (2013)...(20 years not the case) However, I'm primarily interested in going back to the roots... way back... to the influences of the influences... Lightnin' hopkins, Billy Gibbons, etc... nothing like a sick, dirty sound of a blues chord progression from Angus, Malcom and Phil.... to this day...it gets the blood flowing... (POwerage -- cranked to 11)

Just like when I first heard Diamond Head, Celtic Frost, Slayer and Metallica's Kill em' All... it all depends on my mood and what I want to listen to (or try to play.)

If anything, try to be open to all types of music... ancient to new... though you won't catch me me at any grunting, scremo or rap metal gigs... I remember when Anthrax tried the rap metal in 80's "I am the man"... never bought that album... all a matter of taste.. too each his/her own...

Happy New Year!

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SpooterWorkman

When It Comes To "GUITAR" ?
Metal is a Cop Out. You Down Tune Because You Are Too Lazy To Do Chord Progressions ! You Sweep Almost Every Note Under The Rug Because Your Picking Wrist Has Now Become Lazy Too ! Then You Play Virtually Slap Bass On Guitar With A Pick & Call It "Dejent" Also Using The Same Amps, Strings, & Pickups As Every Body Else ! [ Yea, Degenerative Guitar Playing ] WHEN YOU CAN PICK WHAT YOU SWEEP ? Then you might be learning to Play The Guitar instead of "Skating" ! Oh ! [?] You also have No Feeling or/ Vibrato ! Using A Arm Of A Floyd ? Please...It's A Accent Tool ! NOT YOUR VIBRATO ? [ Wimpy ]
Don't Like The Truth ?
NOT IMPRESSED ! You sound like CLONES ! A dime a dozen. "Malmsteen On STEROIDS" ! Today's Metal SUCKS ! Rock's "Bad Rap" music.
Don't Like That Either ?
Bite Me !

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j4bis

I don't necessarily agree with EVERYTHING you said but it made me think about my own technique. All in all... I really like your comment

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robcanderson

Downtune --- Tony Iommi used it due to his handicap... 1971 Master Of Reality... scare some hippies with the creepy sound... into the void, children of the grave... etc

Re-Post -- Wiki

"For the recording of this album (Master of reality), guitarist Tony Iommi, who had injured his fingers in a factory accident years earlier,decided to downtune his guitar down three semi-tones (or one and a half steps to C-sharp). This reduced string tension, thus making the guitar easier for him to play. Geezer Butler also downtuned his bass guitar to match Iommi. The result was a noticeably "darker" or "sludgier" sound that almost two decades later would prove hugely influential on at least three of the biggest alternative rock acts, namely Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, and Nirvana."

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SpooterWorkman

Agreed Friend. But "HE" Had A Handicap ! [?]

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robcanderson

Besides troll my "friend" , what music do you like to play/listen too SpooterWorkman? Please elaborate as many in today's virtual society tend to do (endlessly on Blogs, tech articles and facebook) almost as if you are King/Queen of the Mountain and all knowing) while securely protected (can't be smacked in back of of head or cracked in arse with wet towel in school locker room) from behind your keyboard in an unlit basement with box of tissues next to the LCD display... please explain your one music "is the best taste"... take your time... we know you have no where to go on new years eve... [!] ? [!!]

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SpooterWorkman

Friend, Now thats totally uncalled for. The subject concerns "Metal Guitar" and is simply "opinionated". I really wouldn't expect "anyone"
to agree with me. But ? As we all know ? Thats what makes Music & Guitar so great ! There are different "venues" of music out there. No matter what one likes or/ dislikes. Taste, Opinions, @ One's musical enjoyment is all that matters ? I respect your right to have an opinion without criticism. Peace....

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SpooterWorkman

I am self taught, & have not even owned a guitar in over 27 years until about a year ago. I DO like some of the Metal bands out there but I basically prefer "Rock Guitar", Free Form Enjoyment. You can catch this Old Man here if you'd like :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYZDcGy6wa4&feature=plcp

I'm not quite back, however I must have more practice time [real life]
Peace my friend...

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MetalUpYourA55

Wow I covered this argument in my reply last time around and you didn't pay any attention. So let me say this very simply, because your poorly thought out generalizations are really starting to piss me off.
Any REAL fan of metal can find bluesy metal. PERIOD. You literally have to look up "Heavy Metal Music" on wikipedia and it will GIVE you a list of metal subgenres and their characteristics.
When I first heard Pantera, I wanted to find more bands who, like them, were bluesy and nasty. It took me a grand total of 5 fucking minutes of research to find an entire subgenre of metal with a sound DEEPLY ROOTED in blues playing.
Seriously, if Guitar World will give people like you a job writing columns, then maybe I should apply for a job at all of these different magazines and put idiots like you out of work.

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Listert

Interesting point, 70's metal had real blues roots e.g. sabbath but everything evolves and moves on.
I've recently discovered my perfect combination of blues and heavy rock at www.davejacksonband.com
https://soundcloud.com/listert/dave-jackson-band-done-me

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mklotz

wah, you all sound like your dad when you were kids. "turn it down it's too loud!" get a grip. it's music.

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lilnaters

I feel these articles should be about the lack of real rock bands and the over explosion of metal bands. I WANT A REAL ROCK BAND, PLEASE THATS ALL I ASK FOR!!! But what I really don't like is this: how metal bands just talk about how they have all these influences but they all sound the same and that most people if you talk about the blues is either A. new music sucks (won't disagree with that) and that B. Hendrix is God so f--- you
What I'm basically trying to say is that: I JUST WANT A REAL ROCK BAND :)

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shopson67

Those bands are out there, but you have to look for them. In this era of illegal file sharing, corporate radio, "reality-MTV", and withering record labels, anything that doesn't fit the cookie-cutter image is not going to be dropped in your lap. Guitar mags will help, or just search through youtube; start with a band you like, look at the other links presented (usually similar bands), and follow link after link.

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lilnaters

I mean sure they have helped but music is kind if lacking a scene these days which I feel was really what made music before the 2000's on up so great now it's like one band from insert random town name I feel like music is just sitting in this one spot right in mediocrity and not getting any better....

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mklotz

Bottom line- you all sound like a bunch of old A_holes. Music changes, if you don't like it move on. 60's, 70', 80's and 90's are over. New music is a representation of the new youth. I like some new and I like my old stuff. But I appreciate it all.

razorrex

If it's representative of our youth, the world is in serious trouble. So soon we will all about clones of each other trying to be unique by being the same?

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Music mikey

As a player for over 30 years and an owner of a vast amount of rock music,metal or blues,not to mention every copy of Guitar World since 1980, I can identify with the lack of blues, or lack of emotion and feel in todays metal. The kids making the music, despite being killer players, lack the feel that was more evident in older players. The general tone is heavy distortion, although well produced, it all sounds the same.

If I had a kid that wanted to play, I would see to it that they have exposure to the music that was around before they were born.You see the roots in all music the further you go back and you understand more why you play things the way they are.I grew up with Van Halen and Malmsteen but eventually I knew I had to go back to their roots with Clapton and Blackmore to really understand things.

The internet hasn't helped things either.The music business is forcing itself to restructure. Its important to have a good ear but if you have tabs available at the mere click of a mouse, then the homework involved in being a better player is not as well rounded.Older players like Eddie and Stevie Ray had none of that so ear training was crucial. There is also way too much music out there now. Its harder than ever to make money in the business and to get your music properly exposed. The days of the excessive rock star are over. Big bands have sold out and become corporations. Older bands have to rehash what they do best as an only hope to revive themselves. Newer bands go on big mega tours during the summer playing with several other bands to get exposure, and hopefully money. Nuno Bettencort is playing with Rihanna. I doubt he'd do that 20 years ago, but I'm sure its paying his bills.The next thing you know Zakk Wylde will be playing with Taylor Swift, or Steve Vai with Lady Gaga.

Music has always been for sale, but looking at what is selling now floors me. Guitars are just a mere background jingle or a short note perfect solo. Its sad but it appears rock is hitting a critical point in its evolution. It is not the mainstream anymore. When bands like The Stones, Iron Maiden, Priest and Van Halen die out, nothing will replace them. Young players do not identify with that and its inherent problem. There could also be an issue of guitar not going any further, rather its just embellishing on the past and nothing more. There are seemingly no more Malmsteens, Satrianis and Vais that set the bar high.

jackesp1987

I can see where you are coming from with the direct lack of blues influence in metal music today. However I do want to make a point that I don't believe metal should ever be tied to one type of feel or influence. It's an ever evolving form of music and that's the beauty in it. There are no rules and it's been like that since day one with the likes of Hendrix and Sabbath. They broke the rules and formed something new because they did what "they" felt was right. We must remember that metal is personal to each person and though you may not feel emotion in what someone else does, many others do. Whether it's aggression, sadness, or happiness these are all different emotions and are now portrayed through metal music better than ever. The wide and broad pallet the guitar has become through the advancement of technique and new approaches has given us more than one emotion that the blues tends to give off. Just try to remember that metal is more than one thing it's all of us giving and sharing what we feel is right within ourselves. Like I said that's the beauty within it all, the simple fact that we can all contribute many different elements and points of view and still be accepted when in other genres of music, if you don't follow a certain formula you are no longer accepted and are often overlooked as too obscure. So embrace the ever evolving music that is metal and enjoy it all.

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MAVIII

Perfectly said jackesp1987,
If I were to comment, it would be a LONG rant saying the same ;).
This has been a debate of late on a couple of Prog Metal Forums and Groups but Metal is soo VAST, that I am NEVER surprised at how much new and even older "Metal" is missed out by "Metal fans".
There are soo many sub-genres, that you can find the right feel you gravitate to - if you would only take the time to find it.

Metal cant stand still, it must evolve, progress, and some even "go back" to the past, and of course re-discover those Blues scales as well as that "soul". But I want something that challenges my heart-beat, mind and abilities to play too (if it matters, I'm 49 and LOVE Metal "History").
Variety is the spice of life :). Just remember folks, there are MANY types of Metal and bands to enjoy, just have some fun taking the time to explore \m/.

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j4bis

Well said!

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WWallner

Hey thank you all so much for your comments i've really enjoyed reading them. I'm glad that people understand what i'm trying to communicate and seem to agree in some part with what I say. @napalm I'm not trying to degrade any band and if you happen like some bands that I don't then thats great. I'm not saying that every single current metal band is bad. What i'm trying to outline is trends and shifts in music that have happened over the years and how they have negatively effected my personal enjoyment of listening to the genre. I can't argue against your opinion of my music and i'm glad you shared it. But I do disagree with it whole heartedly :)

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frankenpaul

Hey napalm229 I think you are being a bit to hard on the writer. I thought 'Streets of Rage' was actually really great. It was wasn't your average metal song you hear today song but it sounded like good hard rock with some really good guitar playing. I thought the singer was the most impressive part of the song. Amazing vocals! Your comments make you sound like an immature school kid. They are not backed up with any reasoning or logic. You are just throwing insults because you disagree with his opinion. I see where the writer is coming from and he makes several valid points and presents them in a very logical manner. You're just a troll. I'm looking forward to hearing and reading more from Will Wallner. Peace

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napalm229

Frankly the opinion stated by this article when it was stated was a "troll" as you put it. When you make a statement like "has heavy metal become a joke" you are stirring emotions in order to make an argument. Thus the essence of trolling. How is that not logical?

Secondly, hard rock and metal are two different things.

I may not like the music presented but I have no problem with someone wanting to do that. But when you present yourself in such a manner and then back your argument with tepid '80s rock, it seems logical to me that you get what you ask for.

Oh, and the word is too, not to. (Now that is sounding like an immature school kid.)

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FretboardMagician

I enjoyed both these articles and pretty much agree. You're spot on about the lost blues influence, and yea a lot of metal today sounds really regimented and just not very fun.

Great track BTW - I thought it was killer - heavy and grooving without sounding trite or boring. Singer is awesome, and nice leads too - sweet sweeps at the end there.

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napalm229

Some people do not have either the mental capacity or the emotional connection to modern metal. That does not make it a joke. There are SO MANY great metal bands right now. Used to be that evolving was seen as a good thing. All I can say is if that "Streets of Rage" video is your idea of where metal should be, you are in a small minority. I have gotten more of an emotional connection out of listening to a pan of bacon frying. Truly, truly awful songwriting. I hope the new White Wizzard sounds like the gates of hell opening up, or you are in for a hell of a lot of people mocking you endlessly.

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