How to Eliminate Guitar Buzz
Our resident sound engineer extraordinaire Matt Brown tells you how to get that buzz out of your live rig.
I find that this will fix most grounding problems between the stage and house PA in a safe manner.
Notice how they say, "making it possible to route an instrument to two amps simultaneously."
Sometimes guitar players want to plug into two amps at the same time, so they take the output of a stereo chorus or Multi-FX box and plug that into two amps, only to be met with noise. There is a ground issue between the two amps at this point, and most people would just put a ground-lift adapter on one amp.
Do not do this. If you're using a ground-lift adapter on one amp that is connected to the other grounded amp through cable, when you touch both guitar plugs at the same time, you will get a jolt of electricity through your body.
The passive isolation transformer makes it possible to keep your amps grounded while isolating one from the other.
It also makes it possible to fix any noise issues you may have when using an amplifier and a D.I. at the same time.
I would urge anyone to invest in one of these; it is a huge problem solver in most situations.
NOISE IN THE GUITAR RIG:
I use a process of elimination to achieve the best results. Start off really simple and listen, then add another piece and listen. Start off with your guitar plugged directly into your amp with your settings where you would normally have them.
Make sure AC adapters are far away from your cables. They make noise, and you can hear it just by moving it over your cables. Most wah-wah's are really good at picking up noise from an AC adapter.
Set your amp to a clean sound. If you have noise here, it will only get worse when you kick in the gain channel. Take notice of any buzz or hum. Single-coil pickups will have more noise than humbucking pickups. If you hear noise, try moving around with your guitar. I believe you will find a spot where the noise goes away. This means there is something around your environment that is producing noise that your guitar is picking up.
ENVIRONMENT (including but not limited to tube TV's, radio/cell towers, neon signs, maybe even something next door that you can't even see ...):
Shielding the electronics cavity inside the guitar can help fight this noise; it can be done with shielding tape. Try a few cables to see if the noise increases or decreases. Some cables are better at rejecting noise than others.
The first pre-amp tube stage in any tube amp sets the noise standard for things to come, as the signal travels down the road through each pre-amp tube gain stage. Selecting a low-noise pre-amp tube for your first stage will help reduce the noise down the road.
Sometimes noise is a sign of tubes going bad. Power tubes also can produce strange noises. It is important that your amp is biased. Running your power tubes too hot might sound great, but you will decrease the tube life and may introduce more noise.
Again, sometimes noise is just a side effect of what we are trying to achieve, but eliminating noise before it gets amplified will have better results in the end. Once you have an acceptable level of noise with your guitar plugged directly into your amp, I would start to add devices, one by one.
Powering devices by battery has the advantage of isolated ground but the added expense of replacing batteries -- and risk of stopping the show when it dies! Powering devices by AC adapter has the advantage of consistent power and cost effectiveness, but the disadvantage of ugly cable runs and ground noise issues when chaining pedals together.
A great alternative to AC adapter chaining or multiple AC adapters is to use an isolated power supply with multiple power outputs, such as the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 2. Having a multi-output isolated power supply helps overcome ground loop noise associated with chaining power. Each pedal will have isolated ground.
It is important that the device you are trying to power receives the proper amount of power.
For example: A device that requires 9vDC 800ma might work with 9vDC 200ma, but you might be adding noise this way.
Now, one by one, add each device and listen to the results each step of the way. It is important to try to keep the levels matched. When the device is activated, you should not get a huge jump in volume (unless the device is meant for that).
If you hear added noise, check your cables and make sure all power adapters are far away! Try running this device with a battery. If this device is still adding noise, It may not be receiving enough power; it may need to be grounded. It may be defective or have a design flaw. It may be time to let this one go!
You will have to decide if the noise added is acceptable each step of the way. By dealing with each new noise issue one at a time, you will end up with the best results.
Matt will be doing a regular column for GuitarWorld.com as long as you guys keep the questions coming, so post your questions in the comments below or on our Facebook page!
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Matt Brown
June 15, 2011 at 7:05pm
I do not intend to give out any false information and I do believe he is correct in saying:
"In reality you only need one amp to be grounded for you to be grounded as well."However I have experienced:
"If you're using a ground-lift adapter on one amp that is connected to the other grounded amp through cable, when you touch both guitar plugs at the same time, you will get a jolt of electricity through your body."This was when a guitar player had two outputs from a pedal that fed into two amps, one with a ground lift.
The solution was to have the isolation box I mention hooked up to one of the pedal outputs feeding one of the two amps. Both amps grounded.
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whatevs
June 15, 2011 at 11:47am
So if you are not supposed to do a ground lift then why do amps come with a ground lift button? Right now I am having a ground loop problem with my bass rig. My Big Muff Pi has two outputs. One pass through and one with the effect. When I use both I get buzzing. Unplugging one of the amps stops the problem. The guy at Electro Harmonix told me I have a ground loop issue and to do a ground lift on one amp. Is this cool to do or what? Here is what EH has to say about the topic:
"The stagehand, tech or sound guy/gal puts a ground-lift adapter on your amp, and everything seems OK. But you might be in danger. (Ugh!) This same scenario can happen for just about any D.I. device that also gets connected to an amplifier."
This is the problem you are experiencing but as long you have one amp grounded you're fine. When you have two amps grounded that's when the trouble starts. In reality you only need one amp to be grounded for you to be grounded as well. -EH
Any additional comments?
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