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bigj619d3

I bought this magazine because I'm a huge metallica fan and figured I'd like this issue but it is a huge disappointed. First off I don't believe the songs we're listed in a reasonable order, most make sense but others seem way out of places, secondly they bash lots of the songs that are closer to the 100 which shows the writers are just a bunch of punks who don't even like the band, if you're gonna make an issue of a bad then why say how bad some you think some of the songs are. I bought this for facts about the band and the band's stories behind the songs, not a writers opinion. An example is 97 suicide & redemption being called a boring instrumental, I'm ok with it being #97 but how is it boring, it has an awesome solo from James in it. But I'll move on from all that, I do like the pictures and normal articles in the issue, but theres more bad the posters are pointless, the master of puppets one is ok even though I'd rather have the original album cover, but what is the one created by Tool doing on there, it has no resemblance to Metallica at all other than slapping their name on it. But that worst of all is the disc doesn't even work. You apparently need to download the GW Digital player and use the code. So why does it come with a cd-rom that doesnt work, yes I have the newest version of quicktime and my computer says there's no info on the disc, all my older ones worked fine but this one not at all. I don't want to download all of the videos on my computer and take up HDD space when it clearly says "on disc" on the packaging and there's nothing on it. This was definitely not worth the money and I'll never be purchasing another GW product!!

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erndawggy (not verified)

I don't see Rob Trujillo and Jason Newsted on the cover! The assumption is that they didn't play on any of the top 100!

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zappa73

It's true. While I love Metallica's music, I feel that Metalheads in general (there are always exceptions to generalizations) overreact and throw themselves into a petulant adolescent rage at the slightest hint that they are not the center of the music universe. Thank you for supporting my argument.

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shanejenkins99

Metalheads are like kfed and gangster rappers??! Are you fucking serious? That is quite possibly the dumbest, most groundless statement I have ever heard and you should therefore be banned from speaking your opinion in any way for the rest of eternity. Metallica will live forever and you will not, perhaps being one of the first humans ever to die of lameness. Do the world a favor and never speak/type again.

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zappa73

I didn't say that Iron Maiden was "death or black metal".

Necrosis wanted more black metal or, and I quote, "At the very least they should cover more Judas Priest or old school Maiden like the "Still Life" or "To Tame a Land."

I responded that they did put it in there "also".

You can have your attention deficit and poor reading comprehension.

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corbdog7

Iron Maiden death or black metal? Your an idiot. You can have your KOL.

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whatevs

mrrrazorblade speeks the truth! Go find a better mag if you can.

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mrrrazorblade

Ok for everyone who is complaining about diversity and the choice of features in this magazine guitar world is a business and they have to appeal to as many customers as possible and as little as I think of the kings of Leon and weezer I suck it up because they have good issues and bad ones so save your petty internet arguments for fucking YouTube and buy a different guitar rag if you dislike the way they do business.

razorrex

Ok erndawggy.. Got the issue today and I don't see what you are talking about.

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whatevs

I like what zappa73 is saying even though I think the Kings are a bunch of pussies.

razorrex

Well played, Zappa73. Well played.

Erndawggy -- I don't have this issue yet, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that they probably just put writing credits down.. And it's well known that Lars and James are the primary songwriters for everything.

But then again... Maybe Guitarworld just blatantly left off the bass players out of spite?

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erndawggy (not verified)

I guess Rob Trujillo didn't play on any of the Top 100 Metallica songs. And neither did Jason..

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zappa73

Look - I don't intend to be contrarian. I respect the fact that KOL aren't your type of band, but your distaste for their art has colored your impression of them.

It wasn't the lead guitar player, Matthew, saying he had no idea what he was doing - it was the lead singer Caleb. And what he said makes sense - "it's not all about skill, it's about creativity". He figures out the melody in his head and hums it, then tries to put it into verse on guitar.

The band as a whole makes layers of sounds which incorporate the guitar, much like U2's Edge, Oasis' Noel Gallagher or even the Beatles George Harrison. And I'm sure Caleb plays as well as U2's Bono - he's there to add texture, not show his chops.

I appreciate it's not for everyone, but they're the most meaningful band to grab my soul in a long time, and I'm a subscriber. They also happen to be one of the most successfull band in Rock music today, so I'm hardly alone.

I just got the new GW w/Metallica on the cover today. It's awesome. Metal up your ass! But I dig all music, and even when GW puts out bands I don't like, I don't need a fucking apology for $2.50/month of digital lessons on my PC, tabs, gear review and articles. And I don't need to shit on everyone else's musical taste either.

razorrex

I welcome diversity in a guitar magazine. But you can't put bands like "Kings of Leon" and even a little further back with "Weezer" where they openly state they don't know what they are doing with guitar or they are just openly hostile to the interviewer and shows blatant disregard for fans. Nobody wants to read that. Especially in a magazine where I'm interested more in the guitar whats and hows rather than "Well uhm shucks. I just don't really know what I'm doing on this part. Sounds good though, huh?"

So pulling a Metallica issue is a no-brainer. Metallica is one of the biggest bands in the world. They are the reason I started listening to metal when "Puppets" came out so long ago. This is going to get magazines off the shelves which I'm assuming after seeing Kings Of Leon on the cover, lots of people passed. (They've already stated that most of their sales comes from the news stands anyhow and not subscribers.)

Complain if you want, this is a smart move and I welcome an issue where I'm not losing respect for the persons being interviewed due to their ignorance on their craft.

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zappa73

necrosis: Nobody slandered any music, only a few tepid shots at their fans.

Admittedly my interest in metal extends from Ozzy & Van Halen to Metallica, Megadeath and Anthrax. Anything more extreme than that isn't something that I've sought out, but I did enjoy Ishan's take on his artistic pursuits.

I'm a huge fan of classical music on electric guitar (Chopin, Rachmaninov) so I empathize with your plight. It's a small niche. I love it when Ynwie Malmsteen goes off on classical music, but I certainly don't expect GW to do those tabs, nor will I complain.

This is what wikipedia has to say about "Black Metal":

"Black metal has been met with hostility from mainstream culture, mainly due to the misanthropic and anti-Christian standpoint of many artists. Moreover, a few of the genre's pioneers have been linked with church burnings, murder or National Socialism. For these, and other reasons, black metal is often seen as an underground form of music."

That excerpt aligns perfectly with Varg Vikernes personal philosophy.

You certainly should make your request in GW Tab request forum, but you also may want to set your hopes on a magazine that caters to Black Metal for tabs if you truly expect your desires fulfilled.

That's how I approach my desire for more classical music done by guitarists such as Malmsteen and it's worked for me. Good luck.

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necrosis

I wish people would bring their negativity here in the form of a prejudice against "metalheads." How dumb do you have to be to slander a whole genre of music and not expect people to react to it?

To the person who complains about negativity and then has the nerve to take a shot at black metal, I have one word for you: irony.

But I am glad in your not so sublte cheap shot at black metal (despite the fact that the vast majority of whinning comes from the classic rock endless repeat tab enthusiasts, becuase you chose the word "everyone" in your baseless slander. This implies that the demand for black metal is so enormous here that "everyone" wants it. At the very least the implication is that there is a gigantic number of people here who complain about a lack of black metal in the magazine to editors who do not listen to them.

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whatevs

I see way too much nagativity on this forum everytime they post a new cover. I really do love this magazine and I still get excited everytime a new issue arrives. However, I do agree that we need to see more new tabs and less recycles for sure. It looks like this issue has the poster inside. Remember back when every issue had a poster in it? I used to think that was awesome! I hope they bring it back for every issue. Of course then everyone will just start bitching because the poster was not of thier favorite black metal band that no one else has heard of. Please be reminded that if you dont like the post you dont have to hang it up in your bedroom at in the basement of your parents house.

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zappa73

Right you are metallimarc1 - please excuse me.

I f'ing love Leper Messiah - actually all of "Master of Puppets" is brilliant. I distinctly remember being in 6th grade and wearing out that tape (I'm old). This was in the middle of the Evangelical revolution w/TV preachers dominating the airwaves.

So ahead of their times. Can't wait!

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metallimarc1

why does there have to be so much negativity here? c'mon people, everybody is different with their own taste.....you guys are killin'me

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zappa73

Do I really have to dumb it down for you?

Diversity = some readers like me liked the bands in the February issue (Kings of Leon, Neon Trees, Jeff Buckley).

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necrosis

zappa73, just come out and explain what you mean about "diversity." You don't have to play games about making people hunt through your posts with general statements. Just humor me. Your other posts don't cut it. Just explain exactly what you originally meant by "diversity." Why all the song and dance? And please stop hiding behind your games with semantics. You are just trying to use words like "also," "besides," etc. to try to twist another meaning into what you really meant. Just like how you won't just come out and say what you mwant about "diversity."

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zappa73

The post immediately preceding your addressed the use of the term "diversity".

You initially brought up Maiden and Priest and I responded. I separated the band Morbid Angel from the others by starting a new sentence with the word "also", which means "besides" or "in addition to".

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necrosis

zappa73, don't try to blame me for your ignorance. Its obvious that your knowledge of metal is lacking but that doesn't stop you from ranting about it. But then to try to save face with some weak point about Maiden is flimsy at best. Even someone as ignorant about metal as yourself knows the differance between an old school regular metal band like Maiden and the other bands contrasted. You are plaining games becuase you got caught and are looking for any way out to blame me for your posts. You tried to act as if the bands you mentioned were black metal and now you are trying to slither away from your own words with some weak excuse.

You only mention techno, k-fed, rap etc. becuase it is safe for you to do so. The reason for this is that these styles of music are not featured in GW. This is like how you feign to lkie Metallica becuase it is a convenient way to try to have your cake and eat it too. You insert comments like those about Metallica into your posts in a flimsy attempt to guard your posts from reproach. Then you try to call me "mistaken" to deflect blame for your self-described ignorance. That is why you keep ducking from answering what you meant exactly by "diversity."

Oh you are right about one thing though: I am sensitive, but not in the way you imply. What I am sensitive to is deceit. I can smell a rat from miles away. You are here to rip on metal and glorify "diversity" (which you keep ducking from explaining). Anyone who is honest will acknowledge that rock/metal has been the main source of income for GW since most people can remember. You want to change that (despite whatever post you reply with to hide that fact), but you can't be direct becuase you will upset the majority of readers who don't have a clue.

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zappa73

necrosis Re: the use of the term "diverse", that should not have required an explanation. The frame of reference was clearly a defense of the bands in the February issue of Guitarworld, the context being in support of their (GW) decision to give bands like Neon Trees, Kings of Leon and Jeff Buckley coverage in the magazine by publishing their tabs in contrast to the initial posts on this forum.

2 of the 3 comments before mine were alluding to this month's issue being an apology or "sucking up" because of how poor they perceived the previous month's music to be, and how much better for the subscribers of GW Metallica will be.

My comment with the term "diverse" immediately followed those comments.

I happen to love Kings of Leon, Neon Trees and Jeff Buckley and I'm not alone.

I did not, and do not, rip on other forms of music. Music, as art, is subjective.

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zappa73

necrosis - You were mistaken the first time, now you are being purposely blind. I only labeled Morbid Angel Black metal and separated the other bands as a response to your desire for "at least" more Judas Priest of Maiden by using the term "also". I've made this clear.

But I can see I need to be more blunt: I have not stated that Dillenger Escape Plan, Lamb of God or Slayer were Black Metal. I was extending the conversation to other forms of Metal which you had initiated into the conversation by requesting Priest and Maiden.

Also I restricted whining label to the "complaints" to the past couple of issues of Guitarworld, noting that other genres of music have similarly sensitive fan bases (Techno, white boy rap (K-Fed), rapper-Gangsta's.

Additionally I can make claims to knowing metalheads as a fan of Metal Music, the distinction being that I'm not a part of the music culture.

You are being overly sensitive.

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necrosis

zappa73, you still haven't explained what exactly you mean by the word "diverse." I would appreciate it if you were explicit in defining what you mean by the word "diverse."

Frankly, how are you going to try to come across as an expert on "metalhaeds" when you describe yourself as "ignorant" on the subject. If you voice opinions on black metal that you obviously no nothing about, then why should anyone take you seriously about any of your other prejudices about metal or its fans? Do you make broad generalizations in a disparaging manner about other groups of people or do you save your bias only for "metalheads?"

By the way, since I have been reading posts on guitarworld.com I have seen a lot of "whinning" from all kinds of people. People have complained about wanting more jazz, blues, country, classic rock, ethnic world music, etc, but usually the word "whinning" is only directed toward people who like metal by people who mention "diversity."

You mentioned several bands that you mistakenly thought were black metal (Morbid Angel, Slayer, Lamb of God, and Dillinger Escape Plan) out of ignorance. The point you seemed to be trying to make was that black metal was covered. Morbid Angel is death metal (not black metal) and has had only one tab in GW. DEP is mathcore and has only had one tab in GW. Metallica, on the other hand (that you conveniently use as a ploy to feign being impartial as you bad mouth metal) has been covered way too much. Led Zeppelin and half a gazillion other bands have been tabbed way to much, but then you are going to try to single out a genre like death metal which hasn't been tabbed in 8 months to slam black metal which has NEVER been tabbed in the magazine and call "metalheads" whinning? Stop being a hater.

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zappa73

necrosis - Pardon my ignorance on Morbid Angel - I was under the impression that this was a Black Metal band. Re: the other bands (Iron Maiden, Slayer etc.) I did make the distinction ("also") that they are differing from the initial (Black) group that I referred to, while responding directly to your comment requesting "at least" more Judas Priest or Maiden.

And yes, I am stating that the complaints are all from Metalheads. If you look at the complaints from the previous issues they are universally from Metalheads.

I believe I was "blunt" with this comment:

"Music is great in all forms, but Metalheads as a group are right up there with K-Feds, rapper-Gansta's and Techno freaks."

The implication being that while Metalheads do not have a monopoly on being hypersensitive bitches, they do belong in this category.

I'm a fan of metal music, and I love being exposed to new art forms. I did enjoy Ishan's articles.

But I don't consider myself a metalhead. I'm not a part of any music culture, just a fan of music expression in general. And I love it all, but I don't enjoy whining about a product from a private company that gives us so much for so little.

GW has a transcription request index on the forums. That can be used instead of whining about the other bands that are in the magazine.

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rockshow72

Hey whatevs: we're just tired of nothing new transcribed that's all. You of all people should be bitchin! For someone who has been a subscriber since the early 90's? I mean come on, how many times has the unforgiven been transcribed. Along with Oasis and the Beatles. Hendrix o.k. finally a new one, but as someone else stated, not his best tune. Anyway, it's a great mag...but their song choices are getting nasty. Yes, last month was THE WORST ISSUE EVER! 3 new bands that are total crap! And Kings of Leon may be one of the worst bands on the planet.

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necrosis

zappa73, Morbid Angel is not black metal. Dillinger Escape Plan is mathcore. Slayer is thrash. Lamb of God isn't black metal either. None of the bands you mention were among the genres I was talking about. Now if you want to talk about death metal, mathcore, or whatever else we can go there but we will be changing the subject. As it stands though, the fact remains that there have never been any black metal tabs or viking metal tabs published in the magazine.

If we are talking about lessons, as is the case with Ihsahn, that was a great lesson seires. There have been great lessons in the magazine for just about any style imaginable. There have been great artilcles as well. But I was talking about the tabs. I should have made that more clear.

As far complaints coming from 1 group of fans I don't buy it. I also have trouble with the word "diversity." Are you trying to imply that only people who listen to metal complain? I would appreciate it if you were a bit more blunt about what you mean exactly by "1 group of fans" and the word "diverse."

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zappa73

Necrosis - I agree that "diversity" shouldn't be code for Jazz or anything else and that Death and Black metal deserve coverage as well, which I believe they have. They have had Black Metal recently - Morbid Angel's "Chapel of Ghouls" was in the August 2010 issue. They've also had Iron Maiden's "Iron Maiden" (Nov 2010), Dillenger Escape Plan "43% Burnt", Slayer's "War Ensemble", Lamb of God "Set to Fail"... a series of columns by Ishan from Emperor, an interview with Varg Vikernes of Burzum in the Dec 2009 issue ...the tabs and articles are balanced, but the complaints are not from a "diverse" background. They stem from only 1 group of fans.

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necrosis

If GW is going to make the tabs more "diverse" they should include some BLACK METAL for once. GW, Guitar One, and all of their sister publications have printed country, jazz, and blues tabs but have never printed any BLACK METAL. Where is the Bathory, Belphegor, Gorgoroth, Enslaved? Where is the Viking Metal? Whare is the folk metal? At the very least they should cover more Judas Priest or old school Maiden like the "Still Life" or "To Tame a Land."

I sure hope the word "diversity" isn't code for jazz, country, blues and other genres which together with repeats make less room for good metal tabs. Why is it that the "diversity" comments always get linked with bad mouthing metal? I really hope they don't think they need to keep taking cheap shots at metal to deceive the monolithic (not diverse) base of subscibers (who listen to metal/rock) into diluting the format. Oh yeah, I need to make a ploy statement: I love to learn every style of diverse music on my gazoo, just not on guitar so now you can't attack me back.

Crystalblues

If your going to put real kick ass guitar music, where the hell is Warren Haynes(Gov't Mule) songs ever done. "Mother Earth" from the 1st disc would rip the faces off any player.

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zappa73

wipeout17 - Reread my post Einstein. I made it clear I loved Metallica. I happen to feel that "Metalheads" on this forum are so touchy (i.e. bitches) that they miss the larger picture, that being the incredible deal we CHOOSE to get buying a magazine dedicated to many different genres of music. A good example of this bitchiness is your unfocused post in response to mine.

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wipeout17

in response to zappa73's comment above, you say that music is great in all forms, but you say metal is as bad as techno? metal is actually the most popular form of rock music going right now, and metallica is the group (along with black sabbath) that started it all. i listen to all genres of rock, from punk to metal to alternative to classical, and if you're just gunna bitch about one genre in the rock family, get the fuck out. making fun of the bieber fans is acceptable in this website dedicate to real music, but if your going to bitch about metal, go to any pop music website you want, and im sure they will welcome you're opinions, because here, no one gives a shit about you

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silentbob

What is new about this issue? The majority of these songs have been done before (except the Hendrix song which is so bad I can see why it was never done before). How can anyone still act excited about Metallica songs written 20 years ago that have already been tabbed?

Don't complain? Are you for real? Am I supposed to stick my head in the sand like an ostrich? How will the magazine improve if they don't get honest feedback?

I wasn't happy with the last issue either, but at least it was new songs they covered. What they need to do is work harder at getting better new music in the tabs or at least never covered before. They should include the following: The Sword, Arsis, Amon Amarth, The Faceless, Dimmu Borgir, Whitechapel etc.

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zappa73

I loved the last issue w/Jeff Buckley's Hallelujah, Kings of Leon Sex on Fire and Neon Trees Animal. Awesome issue.

I love Metallica, but I hope this is just a great issue inspired by a brilliant and diverse guitar-driven culture and not a nod to the bitches on the GW forums.

Music is great in all forms, but Metalheads as a group are right up there with K-Feds, rapper-Gansta's and Techno freaks.

Pay them no mind - Guitarworld has a huge and diverse audience to keep their sales #1!

razorrex

This looks like a good start to apologizing for the last issue that was total crap.

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whatevs

How about everybody quits bitching about this magazine. If you dont like it dont fkn buy it! I have been a subscriber since the early ninties and have seen plenty of good and bad issues over the years. As a whole this magazine rocks. I think it is totally uncool that people are using the guitar world forum to bash guitar world magazine. Its like a pig eating bacon for breakfast... Its just sick and wrong. Get a life or better yet go learn to play your instument.

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mrspike74

are we trying to suck up to us with what "looks" like a good issue? could have done without another Beatles song, but Metallica is very promising.

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