New Van Halen Song Based on 35-Year-Old Demo?

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kirbybwebb

It's right, if VH reuses their material they had at hand it's their right. I know other bands do the same. No big WHOOP ! I think this new album is FANTASTIC ! Michael Anthony said on "THAT METAL SHOW" HE decided to leave the band.Miss him there but we all make our own choices.Considering his age, Eddies son Wolfie is doing ok on bass.

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tjnugent

That song should have stayed a demo. There is a reason it wasn't picked for a release back then. The same applies now. Don't get me wrong. I love VH, but I would rather hear something new and relevant to what they are today. That has always been one of their strengths.

TJ

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mugojoe

Glad they are going back to the original sound....but Tattoo??? Hate the lyrics and point (or lack of) of the song. Definitely wish they would have let Wolf join a younger band and kept Mike. VH isn't VH without the original lineup.

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spiderbob

I am glad to see VH back on track with the sound and songwriting style that made them the band they are. Many say they want a progressive new sound(in other words the sound of today's no talent mush style guitar playing or 4 minutes of shred fest that holds your attention for about 40 seconds). I am thrilled to have the GREAT VH back !.................I miss those Michael Anthony high end backing vocals though.

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didierroegiers

I am afraid I prefer the original "down in flames" version, as it was played a lot on Van Halen's first tour of Japan in 1978, and I am so used to it that it's weird hearing the changes they've made to it.

Old demo or not, it's their song and they're entitled to put it out today (Michael Anthony is gonna get fat royalty checks when this new CD comes out)

ncsrberg

Is there a time limit on how long you can hold on to intellectual material now? I guarantee that any professional musician who has been around half as long as VH has at least an album worth of demo quality song ideas saved in Pro Tools, just waiting for the right inspiration to make the leap from skeleton to finished song.

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Trev Morson

Who really cares if they are based on old songs?.. the fact is.. Van Halen are so heavily scrutinized and with bootleg recordings available, then yes, you will obviously hear simalarities. Another fact, ..based on older songs or not, they have been 100% re-hashed into brand new recordings.
What is an issue perhaps, is that the cover of the new VH album is exact same (in reverse) of a Commodores album titled "Movin' On", not sure I understand that? and it hasn't been discussed much.

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krshnakrunch

Great catch! Even worse, the Commodores album cover was very stylized and looked like some real work went into it, while the new VH cover is basically a paste up job featuring an old (and somewhat frequently used) stock photo as its central focus.

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krshnakrunch

"Down in Flames" was not recorded as a demo, but it was an original song that Van Halen often performed live prior to 1978. The same goes for "Bullethead" which is one of the tracks on the new album. "She's the Woman" was recorded for both the Gene Simmons and the pre-VH1 Ted Templeman demos. I'm hoping that one of the songs on the new album is based on "Big Trouble," which is one of the band's best previously unreleased early demo songs (perhaps "Big River" or "Beats Workin'"?).

Personally I'm glad they're digging into their deep selection of old demo and original material. Ed had done that previously on almost every Van Halen album with the exception of VHIII, including albums he made with Sammy (sorry Sammy, nothing new here) and I'm glad he's doing it again.

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didierroegiers

I agree with you, that 25 songs demo they did for warnerBros prior to the recording of Van Halen I, and from with they picked the songs for that first album is awesome.

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didierroegiers

I agree with you, that 25 songs demo they did for warnerBros prior to the recording of Van Halen I, and from with they picked the songs for that first album is awesome.

Glenn Kennedy

I also hear bits of "Jamie's Cryin'", "Somebody Get Me a Doctor" and even "Pleasuredome" (which itself was a sort of patchwork tribute to some key early VH songs!!) Maybe it's just a bit of AC/DC-itis!!

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