Poll: What Was the Best Guitar Album of 1984?

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Firestorm777

Selling shoes at Payless = 57trouble's dream job.

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57trouble

Not good at music, even worse at comedy. Remember Kirk Cameron ? hahaha
Keep yr day job !

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57trouble

Not good at music, even worse at comedy. Remember Kirk Cameron ? hahaha
Keep yr day job !

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Firestorm777

Aw, don't be so hard on yourself, Coby. Not all of us can be music and comedy geniuses.

I'm struggling to figure out what relevance Kirk Cameron has in this forum discussion, therefore I can't quite see what purpose "remembering" him would serve.

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57trouble

Nice , Real nice. Not only do you waste your life on a stupid poll ( that i quit voting in days ago ) but you go and TRY to find my name. It only proves how prideful hypocritic and stupid you are. What do you think GOD would think of all this ? Hmmm ? Mister fucktard. Pride, envy, greed...its all here on display. From you. A little lesson here son, the devil tempted you and you took the bait. Those rules don't apply to me because i don't believe in that crap...but you failed in EVERY SINGLE ONE. Proof of your hypocrisy. It only solidifies my belief that all of that is HORSE SHIT !

Fail.

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Firestorm777

Oh, I beg to differ. It's not time wasted. It took all of five seconds to locate you on the Scorpions forum. Surprisingly, you actually seem like a pretty cool guy. You were just very zealous in your support of the Scorpions, and upset that a band you perceive as nobodies was beating them. You're not a bad person, but you have trouble letting things go.

"What do you think GOD would think of all this?" Well, fortunately, God doesn't expect perfection from us. Otherwise, no one would have any hope at all. But basing your opinion of Christians on the behavior of one person (who, for the record, never even claimed to BE a Christian), is like me forming my opinion of all atheists from the behavior of Joseph Stalin. We're not all the same, except in one thing: we're all human, and we all make mistakes.

I was wrong to feel so provoked by you, to the point that I took your insults toward Stryper as insults toward myself. When people feel wounded by others, it's perfectly natural to retaliate in kind. It takes a stronger person to exercise restraint. So, I suppose I can only say that I'm sorry I took the lower road. I highly doubt you'll accept my apology as genuine, but what matters is that *I* know it is.

Have a good Labor Day Weekend.

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57trouble

Wawawa! hahaha ! Scorps are in 3rd and i don't give a rip...so hilarious you guys are still voting ! Dumbass christians...

Funny that its still going too...GW is not going to take that kind of bad publicity.

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Aguppywear777

Worse publicity GW will take is allowing a seven day poll to go on for 12 days. Makes a mockery of this poll because this Tony Grassi fellow does not have anymore to do with Guitar World magazine than you do...

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57trouble

Im voting for Stryper. Just so i can make a mockery of them when they win! Ohhh, the jokes i have !

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Firestorm777

Not really seeing your logic there, bud. But by all means, carry on voting for Stryper. I don't really give a care whether you mock them afterward or not, and I don't think anyone else does either.

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Firestorm777

What's hilarious is that you're even back on this site after claiming you had so many other "better" guitar sites to frequent. Don't demean yourself, my dear 57trouble. Leave the second-rate GW to moulder in its grave of you-lessness.

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57trouble

Sorry Firestorm777. I should have know better. This is a Stryper fan only Zone. You can tell from the votes hahaha

I will admit i was stupid for taking it that seriously...evedently you haven't figured that out yet. You people must not work hahaa

I love how this has played out. I always like pestering Christians. Its like shooting fish in a barrel.

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Aguppywear777

too bad you're shooting blanks...

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Firestorm777

Look, I'm sorry that your beloved Scorpions have fallen so far behind in the polls. I'll admit, I do actually like a few of their songs. "Rock You Like A Hurricane" is pretty boss.

But in the end, it's just a stupid poll. Like you're so fond of saying, it doesn't mean anything. So you can rest easy. No one is denying that the Scorps rock. They're just not my favorite, and they're not (apparently) the majority of the voters' favorite. That position is rapidly going to Frank Zappa. :D

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57trouble

Boss ? I think that word went out in 1987. Im glad Zappa is winning.

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Firestorm777

"Boss" went out in 1987? Well, I guess you would know. I wasn't alive back then. :D

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swordstres

Go ahead and let Stryper win...They deserve it. The fans know they have already won but no one will confirm it...

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Aguppywear777

Ditto!

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StryperFan777

I am one of those Stryper fans voting for Yellow and Black attack. If the originator of the poll cannot accept a result that did not go in his favor, he should not have created the poll in the first place. Don't explain away the result as a hack or something silly. The mature thing to do is to end the poll when it should have. Not wait for the results to change and then end the result. Really???

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Aguppywear777

You got that right!!! Stryper Army - we came, we voted, we won, now and 4ever!

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Aguppywear777

All I want to know is how long is Tony Grassi's week?

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57trouble

As long as it takes for Zappa to win ! Bwahahaha !

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Shagg

Lol@ someone actually trying to convince others that they themselves contacted the polling company and that the polling company confirmed their deepest fears that those same polls their favorite band are trailing in indeed have been hacked. There can be no other explanation. :D

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Aguppywear777

Let's take a poll who really believes that?

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Wildhorse

Lol ; if you look the poll "best guitar album of 1985" , Stryper : 70 !! ahahaha !! ridiculous poll !

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57trouble

I contacted poll daddy. These polls are hacked by some douchebag. DO NOT VOTE !

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StryperTransAm

I contacted polldaddy and they informed me that 57trouble has been hacking the polls and is a closet Stryper fan.

It's okay, you're amongst friends here. We welcome you to the fold. :)

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Aguppywear777

That's right do not vote on this bogus poll any longer - the Stryper Army has infiltrated this poll and has conquered it loud n' clear!

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Firestorm777

Uh, it would seem that Frank Zappa is rapidly taking the lead...

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stryperlaw

whatever grow up man!

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stryperlaw

Stryper can Jam with the best of them, YABA might not be thier best work, it is still good. Sorry you people cant see the forrest for the trees. Iron Maiden, love thier music, they jam also, but Im a Stryper fan first. So they get my vote!

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So_Cal_Bassist

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aliensailor

Being an avid guitarist myself, I have to say that all artists in the year by year polls are incredible. I have admired and have often tried to imitate, usually quite unsuccessfully, the playing styles of many of the mentioned individual guitarists. Often playing somewhat in the style of Alex Lifeson and having a brother that plays drums - Rush and Grace Under Pressure seemingly would be my natural choice. But, like many here have voted, the dual guitar harmonies and melodic song structures written by Stryper on there sophomore album, as I recall, offered something really exciting. This was very much expanded on in later efforts. Seeing the bands energy and passion live was also quite a thrill. As guitarists, they are well rehearsed. I admire the discipline required in order to play and sing in tandem with another guitarist. Ego doesn't overshadow musicianship. So rather than voting for Rush, which has had their share of recognition, I'll vote for Stryper. Too many people, over the years, have shot them down for their beliefs. Have to give them due credit for conviction. That aside, they have long been overdue for some widespread recognition of their guitar playing. Check them out, playing live and acoustic. On top of that, you should hear them plugged in! Listen to this on Stryper's latest called "The Covering". It's definitely a guitarists album. Not virtuoso work like Jesse Cook, Yngwie Malmsteen, Joe Bonnamossa... but something plain and simply good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crj44NcgClM

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ibanezrgman

Seriously... Stryper?

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Wildhorse

Nobody is fool so . I just come to test 100 votes Scorpions :27,16. Stryper: 30,41;Scorpions come 27,17 and just after Stryper : 30,42 and 30,43 and 30,44 and 30,45 ...funny not ? ah ah ah it's sure , pirated poll !!! Don't know Stryper but ok to discover new musics all my life , but , only one band follows me every day , day after day , year after year : SCORPIONS and Love at first sting is just wonderful ;
Guys , you are my BAD BOYS RUNNING WILD , you ROCK LIKE A HURRICANE , can't wait for your BIG CITY NIGHTS ,it's always THE SAME THRILL ,soon you're COMING HOME and AS SOON AS THE GOOD TIMES ROLL , in betwween us never CROSSFIRE and never I'M LEAVING YOU . Oh yes I'm STILL LOVING YOU , yes really LOVE AT FIRST STING ! ...

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rex caroll fan

SERIOUSLY. I heard about this .... 'cover album', and thought, 'what'??? Well when I heard it, I was so shocked... I mean, it is 'THAT' good! I am no 'pro' citic, but every review I read seemed the same? 'Cover albums', bands should steer clear of that neighborhood.... but 'this' is the exception.... It is truly remarkable, and IT'S 1 of those things where you gotta hear it. Every single buddy I have who plays, once they finally checked it out, now owns a copy. Yeah, Seriusly.
 

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rex caroll fan

I've been a Stryper fan for most of 3 decades, dating back to when C C Deville left the band "not liking the message and direction the band was headed in"... known as Roxx Regime back then, the Sweet brothers knew they had found a Phenom in Oz Fox. This poll is not for 'best guitarist' or 'best guitar tandem' album, it is for "The Best Guitar Album of 1984". I saw these guys back in the 80's, and I saw them in March of 2011, they 'killed it' in 84 as they did a few months ago! The Yellow and Black attack, from start to finish, never stops ripping your' head off with more energy than anything I've ever heard before it's time. Yes, Powerslave is a great album, George Lynch was Dokken, & Malmsteen (If you believe speed & agility is 'what' it's all about) is probably in the discussion 'who's better, Yngwie or Eddie'? However, The Y & B Attack, has elements of all of those who influenced Stryper musically, and they put their own distinct signature on it. Their own sound, unlike anything ever done b4 or since. With the release of 'The Covering', though they had nothing to prove, they pulled off the 'BEST' cover album of all time. Track 13, the only 'original' tune on it, is perhaps the best song on it! Heaven and Hell, a tribute to RJD is my fav., but the point is, this band is talented, may have the best guitar tandem ever, and I live in Pittsburgh PA, very few people you meet on the street do not know who Stryper is? Van Halen, is getting nearly 20% of the vote, on an album that was weak in terms of Eddies' standards, so I do not see what all the fuss is about? Stryper fans are loyal, they are popular all over europe, Japan, and they will be hard to beat, it's the album that started it all! Like Van Halen, they made a statement from the very first note! By the way, Enigma Records was NOT a 'christian' label.

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57trouble

Stryper is not distinct in any way. They are a third rate glam band that made it with a gimick. Bibles and that silly yellow and black wear. I bet they stole that from Matthias Jabs of the Scorps anyway. He wore that silly yellow and black spandex in 83-84. I never thought it was cool but that man is a PLAYER !

Enough of this , were just playing into GW hands. Go vote in polls at classic rock forums.

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rex caroll fan

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and The Scorps are amazing! The idea for the 'silly' spandex is based on a Bible verse, Isaiah 53:5 "By His stripes, we are healed", and Strypers' version of 'Blackout' on their new CD 'The Covering', absolutely ROCKS every bit as much as the original. By the way, that is not my opinion, that came from a VH1 interview with Rob Halford. 'Heaven & Hell' a tribute to the late great Ronnie James Dio is by far the best song on the album (In alot of peoples' opinions), and Stryper is recording a new CD of originals, that is rumored to be their 'heaviest sound' ever. "Soldiers under command"will win 'Best Guitar album of 1985', because it IS the best guitar album of 1985, and probably Strypers' 'BEST' ever album. Listen to 'The Covering', I think you'd be amazed at what a '3rd rate glam band' is capable of!

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57trouble

Hmmm, it will win ? Well, probably because if YBT wins this, no one will ever come back to vote on this site. Fact is, this poll has been advertised AROUND THE WORLD because of me and a few nutty scorps fans. Not to mention van halen , iron maiden, Metallica fans. Stryper is GAY ! End of story. They are a christian glam band that only had one thing to offer : a gimick.

There are two answers to the conundrum of this poll. Either stryper douche is cheating or guitar world is playing us to get people to visit this site. Either way : THIS POLL IS NOT VALID !

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Firestorm777

May I suggest a third answer to the so-called conundrum? Could it be that Stryper's fans are simply more dedicated than the Scorpions' fans? What a shocker.

Oh, and Stryper would have done better WITHOUT their so-called "gimmick." If they were only in it for the money and fame, I'm not sure why they would have decided Christianity would make them more appealing and successful. Seems to me it's lost them more fans than it has gained them.

Your constant whining is making me ill. If this poll is so insignificant and invalid, why do you keep wasting your time with these incoherent (and ignorant-sounding) rants? Do you truly have NOTHING better to do?

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57trouble

HaHa, more dedicated my ass ! And me with nothing to do ? If you stryper fans are legit, you obviously have nothing else better to do yourselves then vote here. like i said before STRYPER IS GAY !

Oh, and another odd event. When the first 1982 poll went down and the Scorps stormed it...i posted on my facebook that Scorps fans need to vote in the 1984 poll. Well i had this popular christian pastor on my facebook ( hes my age) that i was kinda talking with about god n such. I have my suspicions about him and this poll...if im wrong, sorry to him in advance. Truth is, i don't trust most hardcore bible thumpers. I have been stabbed in the back many a time by some of these D-bags. Moderates ? Fine but hardcores are freaks and they never play by the rules. They use their beliefs as something to hide behind. Hypocrites. Oh, and by the way, i dabbled with the idea of becoming a christian...i decided that reason is my god !

And these are not stryper fans. Its one douchebag. Oh well, guitar worlds bad for even putting them on the polls. GW is not even sold in any of my local grocery stores anyway...have to go to a guitar store to get it.

So many other great guitar sites to go to that never even mention stryper. Thank god...i mean satan.

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swordstres

Well you know what those Stryper boys say..To Hell with The Devil!!!

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Firestorm777

Well then, I suggest you go to these other "great guitar sites" and refrain from spewing your venom on GW any longer. I shan't try to stop you. Although, if you'd spend more time voting and less time posting ignorant drivel, your precious Scorpions might be winning about now. Too bad!

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apl

Vai's "Flex-able" gets my vote, he was fresh out of Zappa school but it's so much more than the sum of its parts. Win or not at least it's listed - Mr. Editor there are some really great guitar records missing from this poll. Can you please append?

Minutemen "Double Nickels On The Dime": has INCREDIBLE guitar playing (not to mention ridiculously good bass/drums). If you look it up you will see this is a very highly regarded album.

U2 "Unforgettable fire": where the heck is it? "Pride in the name of love" only has some of the most original and memorable guitar in the entire history of the instrument!

Prince's "Purple Rain": should be on the list for the ear-splitting solo @ the end of "Let's go crazy" alone and there's more. The dude can play.

Sonic Youth "Bad Moon Rising": talk about original guitar work.

Black Flag "My War" / "Slip It In" / "Live '84": Greg Ginn, dude. These guys invented grunge with "My War" (personally I like the playing on "Slip it in" better but let people vote)

Violent Femmes "Hallowed Ground": maybe not as over the top as the 1st record it's still great

Meat Puppets "II": amazing amazing album

H.S.A.S. "Through the Fire": how can we include Sammy Hagar "VOA" yet not mention Sammy's other record that year (a MUCH better guitar album)

And if "VOA" sets a bar for the guitar playing that qualifies for this poll, we might as well list
Huey Lewis "Sports"
Bangles "All over the place"
The Cars "Heartbeat city"
Replacements "Let it be"
Butthole Surfers "Psychic, Powerless... Another man's sac"

In any case, it is inconceivable that Stryper or Scorps, as fine artists and musicians as they may be, should be winning a national poll of the best guitar album, in a year that saw major releases by such widely recognized guitar giants as Van Halen, Metallica & Yngwie. I mean, Stryper over "Hot for teacher"? Are you kiddin' me?

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57trouble

Dear Satan, please remove Stryper from the top of this poll. 1984 was the year of METAL. You, Satan, are the one who brought us this glorious, EVIL, powerful, kick ass music to corrupt all of us.And we thank you. This year, 1984, was the one of the highpoints of your successes through eternity. Please dont let me or any of us down...or i may become a christian !

In Satan's name, HELL YEAH !

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57trouble

Screw Guitar world. You want real debates and polls ? Go to Classic rock Forums , or Harmony Central forums. Guitar World was always a second hand rag to Guitar Player back in the day anyway. If they want to make good with me do a full mag with Uli John Roth , Michael Schenker , Matthias Jabs. All the great German Guitarists.

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57trouble

This is either rigged, you have the 2 stryper fans with some kind of cheating program, or there are a lot of closet stryper fans. Either way the poll will not be legit if they win. Im a Scorps fan but Stryper over Van Halen ? Really ?

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57trouble

I will have to agree wildhorse. Noticed the same thing. And when i saw that stryper was at the top i went to check their forums and fansites...nada. Not until us Scorps fans were making a bunch of noise about it then one guy posted " is everyone still voting ". The same polling program has been hacked into before as well so...

I think its clear that no one will take strypers #1 spot seriously. I mean how many people in the " real world " gives a rats ass anyway. Rock is dead on the vine and ready to drop anyway. Sad but true. This also may be a ploy by GW to get more people here. They dont really sell alot of mags anymore...the last i bought was in 98 i think.

I could say a bunch of well placed words about Love at first sting but...the music speaks for itself. Not a weak guitar moment on that album. Listen for yourself. Hurricane, Big City Nights, still loving you, Bad Boys running wild, comming home....

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Firestorm777

You're not finding much about it on Stryper's forums because... *drumroll and fanfare, please* ...the facebook Stryper Army is almost solely responsible for all the votes. Check it out if you don't believe me.

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